{"id":550,"date":"2013-11-01T15:16:32","date_gmt":"2013-11-01T15:16:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/?p=550"},"modified":"2022-04-12T12:30:43","modified_gmt":"2022-04-12T12:30:43","slug":"chinese-12v-6800mah-li-po-battery-mini-review","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/2013\/11\/01\/chinese-12v-6800mah-li-po-battery-mini-review\/","title":{"rendered":"Chinese 12V 6800mAh Li-Po battery mini review"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Lots of these Li-Po battery packs on eBay, going for around \u00a312 from various vendors:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/BatPic-122.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-552\" alt=\"BatPic 122\" src=\"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/BatPic-122-375x500.jpg\" width=\"375\" height=\"500\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Nice hand-sized battery pack, with a coax plug and socket on flying leads, and a handy little power switch and LED. Comes with a somewhat underspecced charger (350mA &#8211; so, around 20 hours to charge).<\/p>\n<p>The battery specs seem too good to be true, though. 6800mAh at 12V? Nearly 7Ah at a fraction of the size of an old fashioned gel battery. Hmm.<\/p>\n<h2>Testing:<\/h2>\n<p>To test the battery capacity, I hooked it up to a little LCD telly via a Turnigy power analyser.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/BatPic-126.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-556\" alt=\"BatPic 126\" src=\"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/BatPic-126-500x375.jpg\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The TV takes about 0.3A, so it ought to run for about 20 hours. Ha! To start the test, I charged the battery fully with the supplied charger:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/BatPic-124.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-554\" alt=\"BatPic 124\" src=\"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/BatPic-124-500x375.jpg\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>12.77V is a little high, but it&#8217;s straight off the charger; it&#8217;ll relax back to around 12.6V.<\/p>\n<p>About 6 hours later, it was time to switch it off before the battery flattened itself permanently (10.8V is as low as you should go):<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/BatPic-127.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-557\" alt=\"BatPic 127\" src=\"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/BatPic-127-500x205.jpg\" width=\"500\" height=\"205\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>So. Not really 6.8Ah at all, more like a third of that. I think I know what they&#8217;ve done, though (assuming they aren&#8217;t just out and out dishonest): to create a nominally 12 volt battery, they&#8217;ve strung 3 cells together in series &#8211; but then they&#8217;ve mistakenly added the Ah capacities of the cells together. Connect 3 cells in series, you add the voltages, but Ah stays the same as a single cell; connect them in parallel instead, and you add the Ah up but the voltage stay the same as a single cell. They&#8217;ve mixed it up.<\/p>\n<p>The headline, therefore: <strong>these battery packs only have a third of their marked capacity<\/strong>. Caveat emptor etc.<\/p>\n<p>The upside (!) is that the little charger that comes with it takes half the time to charge it.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>UPDATE: A kind commenter, Unferium, <a href=\"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/index.php\/2013\/11\/01\/chinese-12v-6800mah-li-po-battery-mini-review\/#comment-237\">notes below<\/a> that Li-Po cells can be safely discharged to about 3V per cell rather than the 3.6V I used, which does change the results slightly. The voltage drops off very fast from 10.8V down, so you only get an extra 0.25Ah out of the pack. I think the headline stands \ud83d\ude42<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<h2>Teardown:<\/h2>\n<p>Anyway, let&#8217;s see what&#8217;s inside. Note: Lithium batteries can <strong>explode<\/strong> or <strong>burst into flames<\/strong> if mishandled, or if they&#8217;re faulty. <strong>Do not take one apart<\/strong> unless you know what you&#8217;re doing, or you&#8217;re an idiot. Thankfully, I&#8217;m fully qualified in at least one of those categories.<\/p>\n<p>First, off comes the outer blue shrink-wrap:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/BatPic-128.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-558\" alt=\"BatPic 128\" src=\"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/BatPic-128-500x375.jpg\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8230; revealing a stiff cardboard &#8220;case&#8221;. It comes apart easily to reveal:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/BatPic-129.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-559\" alt=\"BatPic 129\" src=\"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/BatPic-129-375x500.jpg\" width=\"375\" height=\"500\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The actual battery of cells is just the silver chunk; the dark strip on the left is just dense packing foam. Shame they couldn&#8217;t just make the whole pack a bit smaller instead &#8211; I can&#8217;t see what benefit that padding does given that it&#8217;s only on one side of the cells. Even if something bad happens to the battery and the cells start expanding, they&#8217;ll blow up like a pillow, not out sideways. Ho hum.<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s pull the cells out:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/BatPic-131.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-561\" alt=\"BatPic 131\" src=\"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/BatPic-131-375x500.jpg\" width=\"375\" height=\"500\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Yup, three Li-Po cells in series. Thankfully they&#8217;ve each got their own protection circuit (which disconnects the cells before they get overcharged, or so discharged they&#8217;re unsafe to charge again):<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/BatPic-143.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-574\" alt=\"BatPic 143\" src=\"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/BatPic-143-500x375.jpg\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The 3 cells are extremely securely glued together, so don&#8217;t try pulling them apart. If the foil envelope around a cell is punctured, they give off a strangely fruity smell and need to be disposed of safely in a neighbour&#8217;s bin. (Not the nice neighbours, the ones on the other side)<\/p>\n<h2>In use:<\/h2>\n<p>Despite their misleading label, they&#8217;re still useful battery packs, particularly for Arduino \/ microcontroller use. 2.2Ah at 12V is still plenty of juice for some projects. Here&#8217;s a little wireless monitor I rustled up to monitor our solar panels:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/BatPic-140.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"BatPic 140\" src=\"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/BatPic-140-500x375.jpg\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s just an LCD, an Arduino and an nRF24L01+ radio module, all cable-tied to the battery:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/BatPic-145.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-576\" alt=\"BatPic 145\" src=\"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/BatPic-145-500x375.jpg\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Lasts for a couple of days between charges, and it&#8217;s surprisingly robust. Easy to recharge with the charger that came with the battery (albeit a bit slow).<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/BatPic-144.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-575\" alt=\"BatPic 144\" src=\"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/BatPic-144-500x375.jpg\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h2>Conclusion:<\/h2>\n<p>They&#8217;re not as good as they say they are, but they&#8217;re still handy.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Lots of these Li-Po battery packs on eBay, going for around \u00a312 from various vendors: Nice hand-sized battery pack, with a coax plug and socket on flying leads, and a&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5,1],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-550","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","6":"category-electronics-and-hackery","7":"category-uncategorized"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/550","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=550"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/550\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1174,"href":"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/550\/revisions\/1174"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=550"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=550"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/howiem.org\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=550"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}